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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.07 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 07/12/2010 16:18:39
He turned himself in, just to get this crap over with.
And yes, his lawyer said weeks ago now the charge was for consensual sex without a condom. I had my doubts it was illegal anywhere, but apparently it is some obscure law there. Similar to how it's illegal in Texas to walk a donkey in town unless it's wearing a straw hat. I doubt many Texans are aware of that. Would love to know the stories behind some of these.
At any rate, the charges are laughable, and it's just a pathetic smear campaign. It's much better to deal with them swiftly than it is to have every paper on earth saying he's a rapist/molestor avoiding capture.
Would you like to know more?
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.07 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 07/12/2010 16:24:45
 Originally by: Heimdal Galplen
I am disappointed in my nation's intelligence services.
Your disappointment has been noted, citizen. And in the interests of protecting the great nation of America your name has been added to the list of anti-government subversives.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.07 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 07/12/2010 17:41:03
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Because that's not what he's been accused of. The actual crime he is being accused of is having sex without consent. Let me make this very simple: consent can be conditional.
Let's say I consent to have sex with you only if you run my mining barge while you're doing it (after all, I can't afford to lose any income). If you stop running my mining barge and lie about it, my consent is no longer valid, and you'd better not have sex anyway or you're going to prison. The crime is {censored legal defintion of 'sex without consent'}, not lack of mining barge income.
The accusations against Assange are no different: (supposedly) he obtained consent to sex under certain conditions, lied about meeting those conditions, and had sex anyway. There's no obscure Swedish law involved, it's just very basic consent.
Now, did he actually do it? Who knows. But that doesn't at all change the fact that he is accused of a serious crime, not just some technicality that is only being enforced for political reasons.
The main problem with all that, is that she was posting all over the internet how she was a having such a great time during the days she was with him, and even threw a party at her place for him the day after the incident. Neither of them deny the condom breaking, or the sex itself happening when it did.
Only when he moved on did she turn against him, even though there was no pretense of a relationship, and deleted everything she had posted online.
It's really just your average highschool BS.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.07 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
So whats the punishment for having sex with someone?
Children.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.08 18:41:00 -
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Probably worth noting at this point these leaked documents are pretty much just US diplomats trash talking other diplomats and countries, and don't really endanger national security, unless you count people getting upset that US diplomats are two-faced, which they probably knew already.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.08 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 08/12/2010 20:10:39
Originally by: Riedle
Have they damanged the USA? undoubtedly.
How? They have disclosed a lot of people in war zones that are friendly to the US and western interests. The enemy can read and take action and this will make it much harder to recruit CI's in the future.
...yes Tarantula most of this stuff is just boring banter but there is no doubt that Assange WANTS to damage the USA. What he is really doing is exposing people to vengeance from the Taliban and/or Al Quaeda. That's the nexus of it.
The TV likes to say it's put operatives and CIs in danger, but there is zero evidence of that. Something the media isn't very keen to repeat is that the US government got an advance copy and did request certain things be omitted before it was released, and wikileaks obliged them with some things, but not everything.
And it's not just boring banter, it's very embarassing to certain people because it's so unprofessional in its arbitrarily demeaning nature towards any and all groups they deal with. With some luck, exposing it to the light of day will cause them to strive to be more professional in the future. But as it stands right now, they're just shifting all the anger off themselves and onto the messenger, wikileaks, and pretending they don't like the release because it endangers the US.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.08 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 08/12/2010 20:34:47
Originally by: Riedle
I just posted evidence of it - see my story above from a peace envoy. People are not going to open up to anyonw that has ties to the USA. This is problematic and dangerous.
They don't mention anything in the documents which does what they're afraid of, its just a hypothetical. Maybe even 'concern trolling'.
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don't see much that the USA needs be embarassed about and I didn't see anything unprofessional either for that matter. How people talk outwardly and inwardly to allies is different. This would be the same for any country.
This is US diplomats trashing their supposed 'allies' on official channels. Any and all people they deal with are roundly mocked and insulted. Has nothing to do with the tasks at hand, it's completely pointless. Of course it's embarassing and unprofessional. And contrary to what you seem to think, it's not something every country does. It is possible for countries and the diplomats to respect one another without it just being an act.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 15/12/2010 19:05:16
Released on bail.
Spoke too soon, it's going to be appealed. If it gets revoked expect more hacker hijinks.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
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